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Re: move BR or instagib here?

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=(V)=RocketJedi wrote: Mon Aug 28, 2017 8:21 am
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=(V)=BloodyRabbit wrote: Mon Aug 28, 2017 12:09 am Firstly,
I would really like to see a RX bombing run server. But I'm pretty sure I'm going to be the only one voting for it. I'm not really sure how popular that would be at first. But I know from SLV days it was A LOT of fun. So maybe I'll go back to setting up my own local server to host a RX BR server. But so far I haven't got it to work without odd glitches that I believe are server related and not game type related but I need further testing.

Secondly,
To really make a proper judgement on the next server, we have to first ask the right questions.

Point 1) What are the goals of a new server? E.g. Who is the target audience? (not an exhaustive list.)

Anyone really.

Point 2) What are the benefits and draw backs to each game type listed towards these stated goals? E.g. Is it likely the target audience will enjoy the game type? (not an exhaustive list.)

The only drawback is time taken to make said server/s benefits would = more clan exposure more donations which = more expansion

Point 3) What is the criteria to consider the server a "successful server"? E.g. Will there be a certain # of people in the server? How long should the server be up while "we" check it against our "successful server" criteria? What are the objectives to reach to consider it a success? Will "we" try a 2nd game type if the first server idea fails? (not an exhaustive list.)

Success = regular players that come back daily or semi daily. Contribute their thoughts on the forums

Point 4) What other considerations do "we" have?

I can get this done while at work. The dust has settled, and I can dedicate time to server creation. I can also create a completely new server. SO we can get rid of siege put whatever there .. I can make another server for BR or whatever.. we don't have a limit guys. out of all the servers we have only RX and MH really get used so there is plenty of room for other game types and servers.

Thirdly and lastly,
Once we have the questions and answers we vote with those considerations in mind.
sorry fro the red highlight quote it looked better than yellow did lol
Awesome! I like how you made that real easy to understand. Very professional haha =D

Anyone else want to chime in?

=(V)=~Sean~ wrote: Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:49 am
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^ I like the way this guy thinks.

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It is a lot of work for RocketJedi to take on, given the fact that he does have a newborn.

We pretty much already have an IG server - it is Server #1 - the last column in mapvote.

I would like to see mostly *all* of the ideas that everyone is coming up with implemented. The more variety we have, the more interesting the server would be; But this also comes with MANY more headaches.

Headaches that RJ, Mar and Kevster do not need. (hope I didn't leave any developers out)

I reached out to FeraliDragon aka XXX a few years ago about his design and porting of the vehicle mods from 2004 < 1999. Unfortunately, he "got bored" with the Unreal Engine's limitations. I believe he may be involved with the newest rendition of UEngine. (I am not entirely sure) - That dude has contributed sooooo much to the community at large that I would love to see him spark his interest back up, but.....

.......which leaves me with a final question : Shall we dive into the latest UT head first and see where we can swim to ? When I was in the {dFb} clan, we were starting to show interest for the latest and greatest, but it fizzled out, 'cause so many of us are getting so friggin' old... work... kids.... real life, etc.

Just a thought.
I love your forward thinkingness. Should VM start looking into the new UT?

Also, to RJ and VM management. Just to throw this out there. I am willing to take on any responsibilities to help run and maintain the servers and or build them. Just saying I'm a potential resource if needed to spread any workload. I have never sabotaged anyone or anything because of disagreements. I am trust worthy should you ever make the determination you would like help.
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=(V)=RocketJedi wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2017 8:01 am wtf lag is that!
=(V)=RocketJedi wrote: Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:31 am I cant believe i have to waste my time on this
=(V)=RocketJedi wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:44 pm During the Cold War, the U.S. considered airdropping enormous condoms labeled "Medium" on the Soviets
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=(V)=RocketJedi wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:12 pm bahaha this is great news
=(V)=RocketJedi wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:33 pm how about we mute the entire server then all you can do is play or rage quit.
=(V)=RocketJedi wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2019 11:02 am FML im old and chics don't check me out anymore
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Oh RJ, the things you say. This is worth the super long sig :laugh :vmrocks

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Re: move BR or instagib here?

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only problem with going to the new UT is the system requirements

frankly, alot of us don't play on high end machines, back when I first started playing UT when I was a young child I was on what was considered a high end machine at the time, now im on a basic $400 laptop that I use for gaming and school work. Playing new games with this laptop can be frustrating, I can manage skyrim, but any games that are in pre alpha and aren't optimized like ARK and the new UT are an absolute crash fest
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=(\/)=_\/3|\|0/\/\ wrote: Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:03 pm only problem with going to the new UT is the system requirements

frankly, alot of us don't play on high end machines, back when I first started playing UT when I was a young child I was on what was considered a high end machine at the time, now im on a basic $400 laptop that I use for gaming and school work. Playing new games with this laptop can be frustrating, I can manage skyrim, but any games that are in pre alpha and aren't optimized like ARK and the new UT are an absolute crash fest
There is another problem, from the admin point of view. Every time an update for ut comes out the admins have to update their custom stuff. If ur talking about just running a simple ig server or whatever, then thats fine, but if u guys r thinking of making rx for ut4 already, just dont. The game isnt ready for custom content and wont b until its complete.

Personally i think u guys r overthinking this new server thing, just create a new server, advertise it and see who shows up. Id say give it half a year and see how traffic does, after that point i think it will b obvious weather or not its active enough to keep it alive. U guys r running this off a server box right? If so then it shouldnt cost u anything additional to run extra servers, its only when u guys run so many servers that u have to pay to upgrade ur box, which clearly wont b an issue since u guys r talking about replacing an already existing server. I do agree with the asking what the community wants out of their next server, but beyond that, when u have a server box or a server thats already paid for, changing it up has minimal risks and doesnt rly need this level of thought.
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It isn't over thinking. It's making sure we know why we are doing it and going through with it and admitting when it should be changed to a different server. Without this stated criteria (if we desire to have stated criteria) the same thing can happen that has haopened with one of the current servers RJ is talking about getting rid of that has stayed stagnant for years? Also, it puts into context what would be expected of us players who vote for it. No expectations is fine if that's what's decided. As RJ has implied, we may need people to show up as he said he did for the RX server. I don't know if someone just wants to slap something together for no reason who is super busy.

As for the server space and how many servers it can handle it was my understanding only one server was going to be implimented. Not the top 2 or 3 choices. It may change and who ever decides will let us know.

I don't care what everyone decides. I'm not in charge of anything except myself. I'm just adding things someone may find valuable. I'm not in charge of this operation.

I'm voting for RX BR and if that fails I'll be hosting my own server for it.

Can't wait to see what happens! =)
=(V)=RocketJedi wrote: Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:16 am WTF I shot this twat-a-potamus and he didn't die!
=(V)=RocketJedi wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2017 8:01 am wtf lag is that!
=(V)=RocketJedi wrote: Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:31 am I cant believe i have to waste my time on this
=(V)=RocketJedi wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:44 pm During the Cold War, the U.S. considered airdropping enormous condoms labeled "Medium" on the Soviets
=(V)=RocketJedi wrote: Thu Oct 05, 2017 8:36 am A free picture of DEEZ NUTZ
=(V)=RocketJedi wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:12 pm bahaha this is great news
=(V)=RocketJedi wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:33 pm how about we mute the entire server then all you can do is play or rage quit.
=(V)=RocketJedi wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2019 11:02 am FML im old and chics don't check me out anymore
=(V)=RocketJedi wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:49 pm BloodyRabbit is the sexiest man alive!! (Rubs nipples)

Oh RJ, the things you say. This is worth the super long sig :laugh :vmrocks

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BR RX sounds good.
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Forget all about this and reduce the map count-aka-delete shit maps on the main RX server, now THAT'S what we need to do lmao
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Re: move BR or instagib here?

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=(V)=BloodyRabbit wrote: Mon Aug 28, 2017 9:43 pm It isn't over thinking. It's making sure we know why we are doing it and going through with it and admitting when it should be changed to a different server. Without this stated criteria (if we desire to have stated criteria) the same thing can happen that has haopened with one of the current servers RJ is talking about getting rid of that has stayed stagnant for years? Also, it puts into context what would be expected of us players who vote for it. No expectations is fine if that's what's decided. As RJ has implied, we may need people to show up as he said he did for the RX server. I don't know if someone just wants to slap something together for no reason who is super busy.

As for the server space and how many servers it can handle it was my understanding only one server was going to be implimented. Not the top 2 or 3 choices. It may change and who ever decides will let us know.

I don't care what everyone decides. I'm not in charge of anything except myself. I'm just adding things someone may find valuable. I'm not in charge of this operation.

I'm voting for RX BR and if that fails I'll be hosting my own server for it.

Can't wait to see what happens! =)
I'd make your own server of it just to test it first

I don't see bombing run being fun with the current version of the rx, maybe the rb rx, but not the current version

It's too fast, too easy to shake a rocket off of you, and easy enough to escape the explosions. In watching the slv videos, you're not going to get that same experience from the current rockets, it's just going to be players grabbing and capping over and over again while the run of the mill spammers sit on the ground and spam non stop rockets.

It's gonna be like regular ctf, but with just one flag, and a lot less fun.

But I'd fully support testing the server first to work out the bugs and making the gameplay balanced
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Re: move BR or instagib here?

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=(\/)=_\/3|\|0/\/\ wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:32 am
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=(V)=BloodyRabbit wrote: Mon Aug 28, 2017 9:43 pm It isn't over thinking. It's making sure we know why we are doing it and going through with it and admitting when it should be changed to a different server. Without this stated criteria (if we desire to have stated criteria) the same thing can happen that has haopened with one of the current servers RJ is talking about getting rid of that has stayed stagnant for years? Also, it puts into context what would be expected of us players who vote for it. No expectations is fine if that's what's decided. As RJ has implied, we may need people to show up as he said he did for the RX server. I don't know if someone just wants to slap something together for no reason who is super busy.

As for the server space and how many servers it can handle it was my understanding only one server was going to be implimented. Not the top 2 or 3 choices. It may change and who ever decides will let us know.

I don't care what everyone decides. I'm not in charge of anything except myself. I'm just adding things someone may find valuable. I'm not in charge of this operation.

I'm voting for RX BR and if that fails I'll be hosting my own server for it.

Can't wait to see what happens! =)
I'd make your own server of it just to test it first

I don't see bombing run being fun with the current version of the rx, maybe the rb rx, but not the current version

It's too fast, too easy to shake a rocket off of you, and easy enough to escape the explosions. In watching the slv videos, you're not going to get that same experience from the current rockets, it's just going to be players grabbing and capping over and over again while the run of the mill spammers sit on the ground and spam non stop rockets.

It's gonna be like regular ctf, but with just one flag, and a lot less fun.

But I'd fully support testing the server first to work out the bugs and making the gameplay balanced
I will see about getting this done tonight. But I'll be using the current public RX version.
=(V)=RocketJedi wrote: Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:16 am WTF I shot this twat-a-potamus and he didn't die!
=(V)=RocketJedi wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2017 8:01 am wtf lag is that!
=(V)=RocketJedi wrote: Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:31 am I cant believe i have to waste my time on this
=(V)=RocketJedi wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:44 pm During the Cold War, the U.S. considered airdropping enormous condoms labeled "Medium" on the Soviets
=(V)=RocketJedi wrote: Thu Oct 05, 2017 8:36 am A free picture of DEEZ NUTZ
=(V)=RocketJedi wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:12 pm bahaha this is great news
=(V)=RocketJedi wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:33 pm how about we mute the entire server then all you can do is play or rage quit.
=(V)=RocketJedi wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2019 11:02 am FML im old and chics don't check me out anymore
=(V)=RocketJedi wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:49 pm BloodyRabbit is the sexiest man alive!! (Rubs nipples)

Oh RJ, the things you say. This is worth the super long sig :laugh :vmrocks

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