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Re: RX8 Feedback 3

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=(V)=Stample wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:21 pm No one in the server is happy with this, every time I've played people have been bitching about the speed. The vote for speed, hull, and slide should have all been done separately, and then made into a public vote before any changes were implemented. Missile speed should maintain the same proportion to the jet speed as its been.

The result of these changes has been a decrease in server traffic, as it makes things harder for less experienced rx players, and gives ig players, (the biggest server emptiers) and top rx players a massive advantage. When I play, I'm now the only player capable of dodging ig players, and have noticed the general loss of chaos making things less fun for everyone. This isn't what was voted for, and the voting wasn't properly handled in the first place. Its too late in the games life for admins who don't understand the current meta to be forcing decisions like this. Get your shit together and fix what you broke before there is nothing left to fix.
I think the game play is awesome it even has brought me back to playing again. The missile speed is exactly on par with the jet reduction speed. I disagree the jets are much more easier to fly especially for any new players who have already joined. Im sorry players actually have to try hard to not get shot down.
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Nyx wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:20 pm Ban players abusing glitches as you claim. And stop fucking rx settings up. Simple.
I can't get a game for the past two weeks that isn't past 5AM EUW.

Whatever you did to the server made it literally unplayable. Dodging rockets is almost luck based. As you said before IG is too easy.
If you wanna keep the little playerbase you have, your best interest is to revert the settings back to what they were.

Enforce rules and take care of rule breakers. Old school RX was never this slow either, I don't know where you got that concept from?

I ping this server quite often, and it's empty for the entire day. The only exception is late friday nights to saturday nights. The only time people actually play this game.

I'd love to play UT more but it's just not fun between the shitty map votes/few players playing or a server emptying after a map is played out.
vote the propaganda jets map with rx 3 and tell me which jet is faster.
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=(V)=Stample wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2019 12:29 am You can claim that there has been no negative consequences, but the traffic is thinning. I doubt you pay attention enough to notice this, but people stay on for fewer games than they did previously, reducing the chances that the server takes off in the first place. That's not to say it will get no traffic, but that you will lose all the small windows that people played earlier in the day. Of course you get traffic during the rush where most people play, but you are cutting off a huge portion of the population by only paying attention to the end of the night. But you don't pay attention, which is why we are having this issue.

Your claim that dodging missiles involves luck really does a great job of demonstrating why you shouldn't be making gameplay decisions. All you have to do is listen to the missile, take into account its speed vs yours, calculate the difference, and make an arc that makes it hit the ceiling/floor as you change your direction to be perpendicular to the direction in which the explosion is closest to you. This works regardless of the missile speed, as long as the missile is faster than the jet, you just have to adjust the technique.

sorry to burst your bubble but the traffic has been down in general before the changes. My job is to monitor traffic which I do even when i wasn't playing.
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Should I also add the old RX's coded by fluke were awful on a server perspective. Literally flooding the server with access errors and causing crashes more often than not.

Slowing down the rx speed by 50% was not the play. Ever.
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=(V)=Kevster wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:32 pm
=(V)=RocketJedi wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2019 2:46 pm
=(V)=Kevster wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:23 am I don't care for the characteristics of the current RX. Doesn't seem right to me. I still think that the best RX ever, was the green/black one, used and or created by HOF. I think that version was the most fun and had the least issues. BTW, I'm not taking anything away from Master Mar. Mar is an incredible coder that I know we're all thankful for. He certainly knows his stuff. I'm just stating my personal opinion with regards to comparing the two RX versions.
I think your memory has gone a little hazy. Any previous version RX had major stability issues such as server crashes and user gpf's. When you jump off the jet you lag. missile fly's near you you lag etc..
Wrong RJ. Nothing wrong with the Kevster's memory. My memory works quite well. I have a video to prove it. You even saw it. I posted it some time back. I played many games (before becoming VM), with the HOF RX and never had the problems that I've seen with the current RX. I don't remember GPF's with the HOF RX. It was actually quite stable, for me anyway.
ill put the hof jet on just for you to show you how much of a piece of shit it is. You guys are very spoiled with how well the current jet is. Ill make it voteable in the nw / ig column just for you :)
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I've ran servers with the old RX6 in the past and it would crash a lot so I have to side with RJ here.
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Nghtmre wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2019 7:21 am There's always going to be players unhappy with change, that's just the way it is. Unless I missed it, why were things changed in the first place?

The slower speed makes shooting down flyers a lot easier, which is kinda boring after awhile. At least when the speed was faster there was an actual challenge. We all know this game is at its end, the current changes definitely seemed to be just another nail in the coffin.

I keep seeing things about glitches. What glitches in particular?

The comparison about Slagg spawnkilling vs insta players spawnkilling is laughable. Someone that is flying around just taking a teams supply of rockets that are auto aim not to mention, plus can dive bomb, killing multiple players simultaneously vs players whom prefer to be on foot shooting a gun from a distance. Both circumstances are incomparable, one has much larger advantages than the other.

Please stop making the insta players seem like monsters killing the server, flyers can dodge shots, dive bomb, and use auto aim rockets. So who's really at a disadvantage here?
here are some issues with the current jet:
  • auto load of weapon is too fast
    • auto lock is retarded
    • no hull so can fly though anything and open doors by flying close instead of crashing the jet
    • speed *was to stupid fast.
    • no slide so you can turn on a dime.
    im gonna put the old jet on column4 to show u how it should have stayed.
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I really want to know why RX turned into a no skill braindead mod with all the difficulties removed. And why suddenly you wanna make it skilled again.
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Nyx wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2019 8:57 am I really want to know why RX turned into a no skill braindead mod with all the difficulties removed. And why suddenly you wanna make it skilled again.
Everything has been reverted back to full retard mode for everyone's pleasure. Back to retirement for me.
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Nyx wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2019 8:40 am I've ran servers with the old RX6 in the past and it would crash a lot so I have to side with RJ here.
I think he was meant the old RX3F hof which i threw on column 4 for shits and giggles. yes rx6 was trash
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Ah. I thought the green launcher was the RX6 for sure.
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=(V)=RocketJedi wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2019 8:49 am
Nghtmre wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2019 7:21 am There's always going to be players unhappy with change, that's just the way it is. Unless I missed it, why were things changed in the first place?

The slower speed makes shooting down flyers a lot easier, which is kinda boring after awhile. At least when the speed was faster there was an actual challenge. We all know this game is at its end, the current changes definitely seemed to be just another nail in the coffin.

I keep seeing things about glitches. What glitches in particular?

The comparison about Slagg spawnkilling vs insta players spawnkilling is laughable. Someone that is flying around just taking a teams supply of rockets that are auto aim not to mention, plus can dive bomb, killing multiple players simultaneously vs players whom prefer to be on foot shooting a gun from a distance. Both circumstances are incomparable, one has much larger advantages than the other.

Please stop making the insta players seem like monsters killing the server, flyers can dodge shots, dive bomb, and use auto aim rockets. So who's really at a disadvantage here?
here are some issues with the current jet:
  • auto load of weapon is too fast
    • auto lock is retarded
    • no hull so can fly though anything and open doors by flying close instead of crashing the jet
    • speed *was to stupid fast.
    • no slide so you can turn on a dime.
    im gonna put the old jet on column4 to show u how it should have stayed.
This list definitely needs to happen at some point though, maybe annouce an old school event on servers/discord/facebook group etc THEN have all of the above ON.

That way we should witness the greatest whining/bitching contest that has ever graced UT99 :rofl
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Re: RX8 Feedback 3

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Would there be a way to get auto lock to only target people flying and not on foot? I also noticed the range of the auto aim is just too far, could be just coming around a corner and you already got a missile in your face.
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I don't believe that's even possible considering the jet doesn't have an actual hitbox.
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Nyx wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:37 am Ah. I thought the green launcher was the RX6 for sure.
it also has a green launcher ;)
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