Introducing [-TD-] Total Domination

[=(V)=Pie]

You also said you wouldn't have a PUBLIC server, and now you do with an RX8 nonetheless. And we're suppose to assume you're trying to help and not actually compete with us? We are doing perfectly well with or without your help. Sorry to say it Chopper, but you shouldn't have dedicated your life to a game. Instead you should have gotten your priorities straight so you wouldn't end up in the financial situation you've been in for years now.

Good luck with TD, but I think I speak for most if not all of VM when I say to please leave us out of it.

[CockSmoker]

Ok...now I see your sediments as you seem to feel threatened by a 16 man clan server that is NOTHING like the VM server, and is in no way meant to be in competition with VM.

This is actually kinda funny... a clan of 50+ with a 24 man server feels threatened by a 12 man clan with a 16 man server.

[CockSmoker]

Leave VM out of it?? Is that what you really want?

Is this the agreement that VM has come to?

[=(V)=_The_Greek_]

Enough. This topic is really starting to annoy me.

When everyone calms down and decides to stop the drama, this topic will be re-opened.

Until then....Any other TD/VM drama related topics that will be opened, will be removed and appropriate action will be taken.

[=(V)=]v[yster]

May I add that this isn't about VM having it out for TD. I think I can speak for most when I say let's just co-exist. It doesn't need to be an all or nothing approach. We have to hate the idea of brother clans if we don't just love the idea, no no no.

I also think I speak for everyone when I say the brother clan relationship got off on the wrong foot when a couple things you, Chopper, failed to mention, plans in store for the future of TD. Said plans were not mentioned then because of the stir you were prepared it would cause at that time in TD's early beginning. That time I speak of is of your fresh exit from VM and UT. TD's not a clan, TD won't ever have a server, TD is not in competition with VM are all considerations now that wouldn't have fit the situation's need-to-know profile back then. So instead the idea given to us was TD is distinguishably "only" a business idea, that was the information provided to us when you welcomed back UT. What was once called strictly a business venture then morphed into something else, and those things are not the making of this dispute; the fact that the facts changed with time is what has led to this tainted discussion that I'm sorry finds itself in our UT99 Clans & Communities TD topic.

Which brings me to my final rant for this locked topic. It has never been acknowledged that the information did change, really. We were expected to only welcome with open arms the things we were told TD wasn't supposed to be, and as I said there was a reason certain ideals of what TD is was kept hush at the time being. You Chopper have failed to recognize VM has the right to feel betrayed. Its founder left; he started a business venture and silenced thoughts that he wished to create more than said venture; created more than said venture; then he finds VM's members' thoughts and feelings completely without warrant. That's unfair, do you not think so? Because that's exactly how it feels. You know me, I'm not one to intentionally place people on the defense or offense, I only hope to find a means to a peaceful resolution in things. So I hope this can be taken without insult, for no one can say it's wrong how people feel--we're not supposed to judge like that. Evidence is how you're feeling right now, being judged for how you feel VM isn't doing you right.